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Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Captante
October 20, 2003
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That's the look of a man who is experiencing a lot of cognitive dissonance.


:) ;)

schadenfreude
noun, often capitalized

Schadenfreude is a combination of the German nouns Schaden, meaning "harm" or "damage," and Freude, meaning "joy." Then it makes sense that schadenfreude means joy over some harm or misfortune suffered by some other.

*(what a stupid look that "man" has on his face up rotfl)

Muse
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I would accept said the indicate was the effect it could have on Putin himself. If he thinks this is now near "regime modify" he's much more likely to do something catastrophically horrible.

I was simultaneously a scrap shocked that Biden vocalised that idea, while also realising it was a thought I'd been having myself. I'k not President, though.

Joe isn't real good at crafting a narrative and sticking with it, but that's actually to his credit. He speaks his mind. As such, he says things that can warning people, like this. Nonetheless, like you say, the thought of Putin beingness ripe for demotion is rife and rampant. A White House spokesman had to walk dorsum Joe'due south comment. Information technology wasn't exactly a bomb crush.
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This is why I don't believe he'll actually utilise a nuke because the world would ultimately end for Russia also and in a hurry.

One thing Puta does accept is a corking survival-sense and even if he's fine in his Siberian bunker what'southward the point if the rest of Russian federation has been nuked back to the stone-historic period?

Chemical weapons along the lines of sarin are far more than likely to really be used by Russia IMO, especially with what we've heard recently most anti-nervus agent drugs being distributed to their forces.

I agree with this assessment equally a rhetorical argument merely you're making implicit assumptions based on projecting rational behavior on a presumably irrational actor. We know putin is a megomaniacal narcissist; the threat of nuclear exchange is only sacrosanct so long every bit he sees the world conforming to his expectations demands, in this case taking over Ukraine as he's accounted it sovereign Russian territory and necessary to his vision of building the old ussr/Warsaw pact axis that comprises the bi-polar world as he sees it (I'm just parroting what iofe, geshen, and others have profusely reiterated on Frontline "the putin files").

If things progress equally they currently are, where Russia is stymied or thwarted, and putin loses face where his tactics fail and he sees that existential threat to his vision of the world order increases, he volition no longer act as a presumed rational actor. If he'south trapped and the writing on the wall becomes articulate that he can't reach his aims (and past extension he will exist deposed, assassinated, overthrown, etc.) And then he will admittedly lash out like a kid with a tantrum that has a nuclear soccer ball. He'due south going to chuck information technology at someone (anyone) out of petty vengeance on a presumably thermonuclear scale.

The one thing that gave me hope there was some other way out was when putin started talking most traitors in Russia. Unfortunately this is the best scenario every bit that gives putin a mechanism to save face yet dire the outcome for Russians. He'll employ that as an excuse to conduct another soviet-style purge of the unfaithful (or our deep state past analogy). Then he has his scapegoat that may let us to escape ww3 scenarios; he was undermined by saboteurs within the country.

Number1
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Yeh just risking ww3 is totally worth information technology . /S

It isn't worth it.

Worst case. Putin uses a nuke.
Say there is no response.

But Ukraine continues resistance.

So Putin drops a 2nd one.

Then what?
Accident up the earth?
So Putin is stopped ?

Gtfo fools.

Yous'll be the king's of a expressionless planet.
Goddamn dirty apes.

This isn't tombstone Arizona, Wyatt erpp and the cowboys, as much as some hillbillies think it is .

If y'all are relying on the Russian military to avoid a nuclear escalation, I'd hope there are sane people who realise what nuclear escalation ways.
Expiry for well-nigh of u.s.a.. And the rest in cloak-and-dagger bunkers. I'd bet some nutters really would exist fine with that .

Seriously?

MAD

Fuck russia. A turd :)p) world country trying to dominate the globe, deporting 100 of thousands of Ukrainians to Russian federation, treatening biological and chemical warfare They are bombing nurseries, hospitals, and shelters. There is a video of a tank running over a motorcar.

If they want to go nuclear, like Biden has said before nigh the economic sanctions, they don't know what's coming.

Captante
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I agree with this assessment as a rhetorical argument just you lot're making implicit assumptions based on projecting rational behavior on a presumably irrational role player. We know putin is a megomaniacal narcissist; the threat of nuclear substitution is only sacrosanct then long every bit he sees the globe befitting to his expectations demands, in this case taking over Ukraine as he's deemed it sovereign Russian territory and necessary to his vision of building the former ussr/Warsaw pact axis that comprises the bi-polar world equally he sees it (I'm just parroting what iofe, geshen, and others have profusely reiterated on Frontline "the putin files").

If things progress equally they currently are, where Russia is stymied or thwarted, and putin loses face up where his tactics fail and he sees that existential threat to his vision of the earth order increases, he volition no longer deed as a presumed rational actor. If he's trapped and the writing on the wall becomes clear that he can't achieve his aims (and by extension he will be deposed, assassinated, overthrown, etc.) Then he volition absolutely lash out like a child with a tantrum that has a nuclear soccer ball. He's going to chuck it at someone (anyone) out of petty vengeance on a presumably thermonuclear scale.

The one thing that gave me hope there was another way out was when putin started talking about traitors in Russia. Unfortunately this is the best scenario as that gives putin a machinery to salve face up even so dire the issue for Russians. He'll use that as an excuse to conduct another soviet-style purge of the unfaithful (or our deep state by analogy). And then he has his scapegoat that may allow u.s. to escape ww3 scenarios; he was undermined by saboteurs inside the land.

I'm fairly confident in Puta's selfishness/greed though and if Russia is gone he loses everything. I believe he's merely "sane" enough to realize that.

Information technology'south attractive to assume evil people are also irrational/insane since information technology makes them very different then us then-called "normals" however the disturbing truth is that doing messed upwards casuistic stuff IS normal for humans.

I could be manner off base but I don't think so... we'll see.

EDIT: This besides assumes that many people are not right in that Putin's goal from the first was a land-bridge to Crimea and that he just doesn't intendance how many soldiers die getting it washed.

brianmanahan
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I was simultaneously a fleck shocked that Biden vocalised that idea, while also realising information technology was a thought I'd been having myself. I'm not President, though.
yeah it was not a good thing to say officially
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Interesting article on an American Veteran Marine volunteer in Ukraine:
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Captante
October 20, 2003
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Amused
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Interesting article on an American ex-Marine volunteer in Ukraine:
FYI, there is no such thing as an "Ex-Marine."
Captante
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Might be a repost... don't care.

If nosotros don't stand up upwardly here America isn't worth a damn.

zinfamous
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Might exist a repost... don't intendance.

If we don't stand upward here America isn't worth a damn.

When he described Syrians' choice between "[Assad] and a group of morally repugnant religious perverts," I idea for a second that he was describing the GOP equally the alternative pick at that place. Of grade information technology fits, so yeah. :D
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Might be a repost... don't care.

If we don't stand here America isn't worth a damn.

My thoughts on what we tin and should do at a minimum:
1 - stop playing Lucy with the football and fly the twenty odd Smooth MiGs directly to (dispersed) westward Ukraine airfields. And truck over all the spare parts and missiles available. They may or may not last long, only have been a key enquire from Ukraine.
ii - Go every Russian AA system out of NATO storage and on the route to Ukraine correct now
3 - Actually deliver the promised Switchblades, which evidently aren't even in road nevertheless, and gear up additional resupplies of these
4 - Given recent Russian cruise missile strikes on many large fuel depots, massively expand fuel shipments (and paw over half the tankers for Ukraine internal distribution)
5 - Really enforce the sanctions, and expand to encompass all military, luxury, high tech, and dual-use technologies to Belarus and Russia. Basically if information technology isn't food or medicine, the US and West should be blocking and threatening sanctions against violators. Not just relying on voluntary self-sanctioning by firms.
- there shouldn't be 1000 odd semi loads of goods running into Belarus from Poland each twenty-four hour period, every bit shown by just the one short demonstration blocking commitment there (on just 1 of the highways!)
Captante
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My thoughts on what we can and should do at a minimum:
1 - end playing Lucy with the football game and wing the 20 odd Polish MiGs straight to (dispersed) west Ukraine airfields. And truck over all the spare parts and missiles available. They may or may not last long, just have been a key enquire from Ukraine.
2 - Go every Russian AA system out of NATO storage and on the road to Ukraine correct now
iii - Actually deliver the promised Switchblades, which manifestly aren't even in route yet, and fix additional resupplies of these
4 - Given recent Russian cruise missile strikes on many large fuel depots, massively expand fuel shipments (and hand over half the tankers for Ukraine internal distribution)
5 - Actually enforce the sanctions, and expand to embrace all war machine, luxury, high tech, and dual-use technologies to Belarus and Russian federation. Basically if it isn't nutrient or medicine, the US and W should be blocking and threatening sanctions confronting violators. Not simply relying on voluntary self-sanctioning past firms.
- there shouldn't be yard odd semi loads of goods running into Belarus from Poland each 24-hour interval, as shown past just the ane brusque demonstration blocking delivery in that location (on only i of the highways!)

I'm with you lot on all of the above however I can't help but experience that if we go along to permit Putin the initiative, a lot more Ukrainian civilians are going to die in something similar a gas-attack and So we'll get actively involved anyway.

:confused:

It's freaking scary as hell but I think we would exist meliorate served taking the bull past the horns and deciding how/when the fight starts if its going to not leaving information technology to the Russians. (never thought I'd write this)

:oops:

Lost_in_the_HTTP
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deporting 100 of thousands of Ukrainians to Russia,
Kidnapping is what it is.
Captante
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Some interesting signals from the Ukrainians.

The Ukrainian President talks to Russian media where he says that - "several Russian oligarchs, including Abramovich, offered to ship money to Ukrainian army, rebuild Ukraine, and movement their businesses in that location."


And from the interview above, apparently the Donbass region can get to Russia, merely I recollect Russia would want more than...

The interview itself - has captions available.
cytg111
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Some interesting signals from the Ukrainians.

The Ukrainian President talks to Russian media where he says that - "several Russian oligarchs, including Abramovich, offered to send money to Ukrainian army, rebuild Ukraine, and motility their businesses there."


And from the interview above, manifestly the Donbass region can get to Russian federation, simply I recollect Russian federation would want more than...

The interview itself - has captions available.
Ukraine volition insist on autonomy and join European union and or NATO… Everything Putin has said and done so far indicates thats a no deal for him.
sandorski
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Ukraine will insist on autonomy and join European union and or NATO… Everything Putin has said and done so far indicates thats a no deal for him.
I call back he is shut to moving on that. Can't keep hiding this clusterfuck.
cytg111
Mar 17, 2008
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Yeh but risking ww3 is totally worth information technology . /S

It isn't worth it.

Worst case. Putin uses a nuke.
Say there is no response.

Only Ukraine continues resistance.

Then Putin drops a 2d one.

And then what?
Blow up the globe?
And then Putin is stopped ?

Gtfo fools.

Yous'll be the king's of a dead planet.
Goddamn dirty apes.

This isn't tombstone Arizona, Wyatt erpp and the cowboys, as much as some hillbillies recollect information technology is .

If you are relying on the Russian military to avert a nuclear escalation, I'd hope there are sane people who realise what nuclear escalation ways.
Death for most of u.s.a.. And the rest in underground bunkers. I'd bet some nutters actually would be fine with that .

Take you gamed this algorithm to its conclusion?
Putin : In a world with no Russian federation why should there be a globe?
Yous : No thing what, I wont respond with nukes.
Advancing this game to its determination, Putin takes all.

I said earlier in this thread that if I'd accept to chose between a expressionless planet and a planet that speaks Russian… Id chose the latter after all.
Seems like you lot're comfortable with that outcome.

cytg111
Mar 17, 2008
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I remember he is close to moving on that. Can't keep hiding this clusterfuck.
I dont. I think he'll use chemical earlier that… perhaps even a little tactical nuke with less or no casualties… you know, to get a reaction and evaluate from that.
I think Biden was correct. Putin has to go. Put a bounty on his caput, one billion dollars.
cytg111
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I hold with this assessment as a rhetorical argument just you're making implicit assumptions based on projecting rational behavior on a presumably irrational actor. We know putin is a megomaniacal narcissist; the threat of nuclear exchange is only sacrosanct so long every bit he sees the globe befitting to his expectations demands, in this instance taking over Ukraine as he's deemed information technology sovereign Russian territory and necessary to his vision of building the old ussr/Warsaw pact centrality that comprises the bi-polar world as he sees it (I'thousand just parroting what iofe, geshen, and others have profusely reiterated on Frontline "the putin files").

If things progress equally they currently are, where Russia is stymied or thwarted, and putin loses face where his tactics fail and he sees that existential threat to his vision of the earth order increases, he volition no longer act as a presumed rational actor. If he's trapped and the writing on the wall becomes clear that he can't achieve his aims (and by extension he will exist deposed, assassinated, overthrown, etc.) Then he will admittedly lash out like a child with a tantrum that has a nuclear soccer brawl. He'southward going to chuck information technology at someone (anyone) out of footling vengeance on a presumably thermonuclear calibration.

The i thing that gave me promise in that location was another way out was when putin started talking nigh traitors in Russia. Unfortunately this is the best scenario as that gives putin a mechanism to save face however dire the outcome for Russians. He'll utilise that every bit an alibi to comport another soviet-style purge of the unfaithful (or our deep state by illustration). Then he has his scapegoat that may permit united states of america to escape ww3 scenarios; he was undermined by saboteurs within the country.

Only this whole thing is because Putin believes that Russia IS heading for the history books… If NATO is not stopped. If he cant even concord Ukraine from the evil NATO empire, then all is surely lost, the Russian experiment is over.
So nukes or lose Ukraine… same shit, tomato potato
Lost_in_the_HTTP
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I think Biden was correct. Putin has to go. Put a bounty on his head, i billion dollars.
Charge him with War Crimes. Issue an international warrant for his arrest. He'd never be able to travel again, at least not openly.
pcgeek11
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Nobody audits like the armed services. Shit gives me flashbacks and I just had to deal with garbage IT equipment. At least I ducked COMSEC.

You should effort dealing with Nuclear Weapons work documentation.
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cytg111
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#GALACTIC-FEDERATION
This is an emergency broadcast from planet globe
Nosotros desperately demand your help
Please beam all our nuclear weapons into the sun earlier we kill ourselves.
…. or at to the lowest degree go me and my fam tf off this rock plz.

msg me

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You should try dealing with Nuclear Weapons work documentation.
You know, if yous want to have a word with yourself you don't need to exercise it here.
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